Sunday, January 28, 2007

Why did the South Tower collapse first?

Conspiracy Theorists often ask why did the South World Trade Tower come down first, despite being hit after the North Tower and thus obviously burning for less time.

The reason is due to how Flight 175 hit the South Tower. Flight 11 hit the North Tower roughly quite central, whereas Flight 175 hit the corner, and lower down on the South Tower. This resulted in more pressure on the upper floors of the South Tower, and thus the collapse came before the North Tower.

For a full, and probably a more easier was to understand this, check out Screw 9/11 Mysteries.

The Last Hour Of Flight 11

http://tv.peekvid.com/s3549/

Very good docu-series about the last hour on Flight 11 on September 11th, 2001.

Friday, January 26, 2007

Loose Brains pulled from Irish TV Showing

Due to a kind email sent by a few JREF'ers, Loose Change, which was scheduled to be shown on Irish TV has been canceled!

Is this censorship? No. Why? Because he didn't ask it to be pulled, he just asked for it to be placed in context, a disclaimer or something. But thankfully the Irish TV was smart enough to pull Loose Facts from the nations eyes. Besides, its free online anyway.

Thursday, January 25, 2007

Overnight Millionaires

Thoughts this week:

  • Some, not all, CT'ers claim that the firefighters, NYPD, FEMA and other Government agencies were paid off to shut up about 9/11 - but would that not create some overnight millionaires? Friends of these people would obviously notice this, and then would they need to be paid off to keep quiet about finding out - and would their friends need to be paid off? Its an endless stream.
  • Regarding no planes at WTC... Besides the hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw a plane and saw it hit the tower - why would the Government risk not flying a plane into the tower? Especially the second tower, because it was being filmed by many news outlets/people on the street.
  • Pentagon plane... again why not just fly a plane into the pentagon? If it hits the lawn - no big deal! Oh, and the lightpoles... if a missle hit the Pentagon, why did the lightpoles come out? No evidence of explosives used.

Thursday, January 18, 2007

Released: Screw 9/11 Mysteries "Clunkity Clunk" Edition

"Screw 9/11 Mysteries - Clunkity Clunk Edition" is now available for viewing.

BitTorrent - High Quality
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3597525/scrw911mystrs_full.avi

Google Video - Stream
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6243624912447824934

I recommend viewing from Google Video and setting the size to "Fit To Window". Text is hard to read due to Google Resize.

Thanks to the Doc for this.

Sunday, January 14, 2007

More On OBL.

Thanks to T.AM for this:
If OBL was a CIA operative/patsy then why did they need to make the "fake" video that all the CTers claim is fake?
Shoot.

Thursday, January 11, 2007

The Big Bad Media

Courtesy of Gumboot from Jref:

I love 28th's take on the news, that they only show bad stuff to keep the population afraid.

I can imagine his version of the news:

PRESENTER1: Tonight on 6 NEWS: Three million motorists safely complete their journeys. We have an interview exclusive.

PRESENTER2: Meanwhile, Mayor Stevens continues to be a fair and reasonable leader of the city. We find out why.

PRESENTER1: We go live to Albert Memorial Park, where nothing much is happening.

PRESENTER2: And law enforcement correspondant Janet Dayes gives her summary of a quiet uneventful day with the boys in blue.

PRESENTER1: Meanwhile in International News, The United Kingdom sets a new record with its 940th straight year without being invaded.

PRESENTER2: And the World Health Organisation raises concerns that the price of panadol in the Middle East is rising at 1% higher rate than local inflation rates.

Yeah, that would be exciting news... everyone would watch that.

-Gumboot

Thats definetly being added to my list of "Best Debunker Quotes", thanks Gumboot :D

Tuesday, January 9, 2007

No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden.

Often used, easily understood.

The FBI made it public that there was no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11. CTers use this as some form of 'proof' that he wasn't involved.

This works AGAINST CTers. If the Government planned it and carried it out, they would make a CLEAR link to Osama in order to strengthen their story.

Are they the smartest Government ever, or totally, totally complacent? We return to: We would have got away with it if it weren't for you meddling teenagers!

Monday, January 8, 2007

Flight 93 - Personal Effects

I was looking through my house today as I was packing, getting ready to head back to Uni, when I came across a readers digest that, in the top left hand corner had "Flight 93 - What We Never Knew". It was a very good read (its an excerpt from Lyz Glick's book "Your Fathers Voice". If you don't know, her husband Jeremy was one of the passengers who helped bring the plane down in Shanksville.

Anyway, the third paragraph was interesting to me, and should prove interesting to anyone who thinks that personal effects cannot survive plane crashes (passports, clothing etc). Anyway, here is a clip for you to read:

Quote:
In it were colour photographs of everything found at the crash site that was not clearly linked to a particular person

Jeremy's wedding ring didn't survive, but 70 other pieces of jewellery did, along with a bewlidering array of socks, hats, shoes and other items of clothing that somehow made it through the crash and the fire that followed. There were also such things as keys, books and dozens of snapshots of children.


...I came across a pair of black briefs, They were savagely torn and badly discoloured, but there was no doubt they were Jeremy's.

...Near the end, at the bottom of one page, was an American Express personal organizer, its cover burned away.
Bolding mine.

Saturday, January 6, 2007

Intentions over facts!

Can't believe I haven't seen this until now, it was brought to light by a poster at JREF called "WilliamSeger"

From http://www.truthmove.org/


Quote:
Truthmove.org - 11/18/06 - Ground Zero Our local, incredibly committed 9/11 truth debunker (Mark Roberts/Gravy) faces random citizens who don't buy his intentions. Sure, not all of our facts are equally relevant, or sourced. But our intentions are genuine. Mark says he's about the facts, but people see through that and recognize what he is trying to do.
They know what you're trying to do with all those facts, Gravy -- and they ain't buyin' it!