New Debunking Short

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5929491843745162717

Lack of posting is down to

Nothing to say!

No new ''''''''''''evidence'''''''''''' has emerged, no whistleblowers, nothing.

Maybe we'll all wait until LC:FC is out.

If it ever does.

9/11 Conspiracy: Contradictions 1-10

From JREF.

"I was thinking of compiling a list that shows just how contradictory the 9/11 conspiracy is. Everything in the list should be something that is supported by 9/11 CTists."

#. Conspiracy claim.

Contradiction/Inconsistency/Contradicting CTer claim

1. A missile hit the Pentagon. Light poles were plucked out of the ground close to the Pentagon.

For these two statements to be true: Prior to striking the Pentagon, the missile pinballed off 5 different light poles without detonating.

2. A missile hit the Pentagon. There was a small amount of airplane debris found on the yard of the Pentagon.

For these two statements to be true: milliseconds after the Pentagon was struck, lightning-quick, possibly invisible gnomes ran around the yard and dispersed random chunks of airplane wreckage.

3. Damning evidence of there being charges inside the towers is the numerous reports of explosions.

Inconsistency: no such claim is made about WTC 7.

4. NORAD stood down and didn't intercept any of the hijacked jets.

"Flight 93 was shot down."

5. NORAD stood down.

"NORAD had numerous test missions scheduled for that day."

6. The towers fell neatly within their own footprints.

The south tower ejected just enough material to minorly damage WTC7 and justify it's controlled demolition.

7. Damning evidence of there being charges inside the towers is the numerous reports of explosions. Thermite/ate reactions were used to weaken the steel beams, as confirmed by Steven Jones.

Thermite/ate is not an explosive and does not sound like one.

8. Rumsfeld/Willie Brown/Pentagon officials stopped flying commercially before 9/11

Surely Rumsfeld would know which flights were sceduled to be hijacked and would not book a ticket on them. They would know no flights out of San Francisco were part of the operation.

9. The janitor in the basement of the WTC reported explosions (attributed to a bomb) in the basement of the building.

The buildings were destroyed top-down; why bother planting 'extra' explosives that would not have been needed to bring down the towers?

10. 9/11 enabled the US to invade Afghanistan so they could build a pipeline. Al Qaeda and the Taliban are puppets of the CIA/ISI.

Why do you need to invade land that is totally controlled by your puppets?

Witnesses

If there is one thing I have learned from films and Prison Break, it would be that witnesses of a conspiracy would have to be killed in order to keep the story secret.

So my question is: why haven't the witnesses that heard explosions, or didn't properly see a plane near the pentagon been killed?

If you want mainstream media

You got it.

BBC has done a great job debunking the 9/11 conspiracy theory. Here are the videos parts 1 through 7

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vR3aNMLkahc - Part 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uQ1kSE74hmU - Part 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pml4pTnhEC4 - Part 3
http://youtube.com/watch?v=N_Zt7G3hKpU - Part 4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BX0AIyycLKc - Part 5
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FianbvnWILk - Part 6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=g_dDxdqc_Qo - Part 7

Tell me, why can truthers trust the BBC article which mistakenly said that the hijackers were still alive, yet they can't trust this?

Deniers want mainstream media coverage until it turns around and bites them in the ass.

New WTC7 Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHdt7wRQtaY

Very good in showing the extent of the damage that "Seven World Trade Center" had suffered that day. Also shows the fires that were raging within.

Something on World Trade Center 7

• Why did this mega-smart/mega-dumb conspirators not pull the building at 3pm? Surely waiting until 5.32pm would be far more suspicious.*
• How did the mega-smart/mega-dumb conspirators know that part of the WTC1&2 would fall on WTC7? They couldn't just demolish it without it having sustained some structural damage or it would be obvious that they demolished it!
  

*WTC7 was empty from ~2.30pm onwards.

I've lost faith in humanity.

Killclown's latest video.

I don't think i've seen a more idiotic video.

"This has been an extraordinary day for stupidity. Extraordinary." - Gravy.

Why did the South Tower collapse first?

Conspiracy Theorists often ask why did the South World Trade Tower come down first, despite being hit after the North Tower and thus obviously burning for less time.

The reason is due to how Flight 175 hit the South Tower. Flight 11 hit the North Tower roughly quite central, whereas Flight 175 hit the corner, and lower down on the South Tower. This resulted in more pressure on the upper floors of the South Tower, and thus the collapse came before the North Tower.

For a full, and probably a more easier was to understand this, check out Screw 9/11 Mysteries.

The Last Hour Of Flight 11

http://tv.peekvid.com/s3549/

Very good docu-series about the last hour on Flight 11 on September 11th, 2001.

Loose Brains pulled from Irish TV Showing

Due to a kind email sent by a few JREF'ers, Loose Change, which was scheduled to be shown on Irish TV has been canceled!

Is this censorship? No. Why? Because he didn't ask it to be pulled, he just asked for it to be placed in context, a disclaimer or something. But thankfully the Irish TV was smart enough to pull Loose Facts from the nations eyes. Besides, its free online anyway.

Overnight Millionaires

Thoughts this week:

• Some, not all, CT'ers claim that the firefighters, NYPD, FEMA and other Government agencies were paid off to shut up about 9/11 - but would that not create some overnight millionaires? Friends of these people would obviously notice this, and then would they need to be paid off to keep quiet about finding out - and would their friends need to be paid off? Its an endless stream.
• Regarding no planes at WTC... Besides the hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw a plane and saw it hit the tower - why would the Government risk not flying a plane into the tower? Especially the second tower, because it was being filmed by many news outlets/people on the street.
• Pentagon plane... again why not just fly a plane into the pentagon? If it hits the lawn - no big deal! Oh, and the lightpoles... if a missle hit the Pentagon, why did the lightpoles come out? No evidence of explosives used.

Released: Screw 9/11 Mysteries "Clunkity Clunk" Edition

"Screw 9/11 Mysteries - Clunkity Clunk Edition" is now available for viewing.

BitTorrent - High Quality
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3597525/scrw911mystrs_full.avi

Google Video - Stream
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6243624912447824934

I recommend viewing from Google Video and setting the size to "Fit To Window". Text is hard to read due to Google Resize.

Thanks to the Doc for this.

More On OBL.

Thanks to T.AM for this:

If OBL was a CIA operative/patsy then why did they need to make the "fake" video that all the CTers claim is fake?

Shoot.

The Big Bad Media

Courtesy of Gumboot from Jref:

I love 28th's take on the news, that they only show bad stuff to keep the population afraid.

I can imagine his version of the news:

PRESENTER1: Tonight on 6 NEWS: Three million motorists safely complete their journeys. We have an interview exclusive.

PRESENTER2: Meanwhile, Mayor Stevens continues to be a fair and reasonable leader of the city. We find out why.

PRESENTER1: We go live to Albert Memorial Park, where nothing much is happening.

PRESENTER2: And law enforcement correspondant Janet Dayes gives her summary of a quiet uneventful day with the boys in blue.

PRESENTER1: Meanwhile in International News, The United Kingdom sets a new record with its 940th straight year without being invaded.

PRESENTER2: And the World Health Organisation raises concerns that the price of panadol in the Middle East is rising at 1% higher rate than local inflation rates.

Yeah, that would be exciting news... everyone would watch that.

-Gumboot

Thats definetly being added to my list of "Best Debunker Quotes", thanks Gumboot :D

No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden.

Often used, easily understood.

The FBI made it public that there was no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11. CTers use this as some form of 'proof' that he wasn't involved.

This works AGAINST CTers. If the Government planned it and carried it out, they would make a CLEAR link to Osama in order to strengthen their story.

Are they the smartest Government ever, or totally, totally complacent? We return to: We would have got away with it if it weren't for you meddling teenagers!

Flight 93 - Personal Effects

I was looking through my house today as I was packing, getting ready to head back to Uni, when I came across a readers digest that, in the top left hand corner had "Flight 93 - What We Never Knew". It was a very good read (its an excerpt from Lyz Glick's book "Your Fathers Voice". If you don't know, her husband Jeremy was one of the passengers who helped bring the plane down in Shanksville.

Anyway, the third paragraph was interesting to me, and should prove interesting to anyone who thinks that personal effects cannot survive plane crashes (passports, clothing etc). Anyway, here is a clip for you to read:

Quote:

In it were colour photographs of everything found at the crash site that was not clearly linked to a particular person Jeremy's wedding ring didn't survive, but 70 other pieces of jewellery did, along with a bewlidering array of socks, hats, shoes and other items of clothing that somehow made it through the crash and the fire that followed. There were also such things as keys, books and dozens of snapshots of children. ...I came across a pair of black briefs, They were savagely torn and badly discoloured, but there was no doubt they were Jeremy's. ...Near the end, at the bottom of one page, was an American Express personal organizer, its cover burned away.

Bolding mine.

Intentions over facts!

Can't believe I haven't seen this until now, it was brought to light by a poster at JREF called "WilliamSeger"

From http://www.truthmove.org/

Quote:

Truthmove.org - 11/18/06 - Ground Zero Our local, incredibly committed 9/11 truth debunker (Mark Roberts/Gravy) faces random citizens who don't buy his intentions. Sure, not all of our facts are equally relevant, or sourced. But our intentions are genuine. Mark says he's about the facts, but people see through that and recognize what he is trying to do.

They know what you're trying to do with all those facts, Gravy -- and they ain't buyin' it!